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		By: Jeff		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://frostygarden.com/topics/switched-non-organic-gardening/#comment-33984&quot;&gt;Bruce&lt;/a&gt;.

Appreciate your thoughtful comment &amp; much agreed as well!  I&#039;ve heard that same train of thought before about soil, my opinion is that it&#039;s actually both.  When you look at the 17 critical macro and micro nutrients plants need, some are organically derived and some are broken down from mineral sources.  (i.e. copper is a mineral base, but nitrogen is wholly derived from organics.)  In my opinion, the logic of &quot;where things come from&quot; points towards both.

Our northern focused &quot;environmental argument&quot; is simply that all these systems work at exceptionally slow levels.  It&#039;s not that they don&#039;t work, in fact we use them, it&#039;s just that we can&#039;t rely upon them in the same way as more southern growers.

I agree with you that the &quot;main concern&quot; is what else could be in chemical ferts.  We know that plants feed on inorganic chemicals (like nitrate, phosphate and potassium ions) and that any carbon in organics are essentially cleaved prior to plant uptake.  There&#039;s also no doubt plants can take up foreign things, so if they&#039;re there, it&#039;s definitely of concern.  But, that&#039;s where I look at things like MSDS for transport reasons.  Everything must be declared at the risk of serious and heavy state or federal fines.  I have to think that when it states &quot;base chemicals&quot; with nothing weird, there&#039;s nothing nefarious going on - at least with reputable suppliers.  We definitely aren&#039;t arguing for putting some off brand, questionably manufactured and probably compromised stuff on our plants.  Frankly, my concerns lie in things like PFOS and PFAS, which is entirely disconnected from the organic/inorganic discussion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://frostygarden.com/topics/switched-non-organic-gardening/#comment-33984">Bruce</a>.</p>
<p>Appreciate your thoughtful comment &#038; much agreed as well!  I&#8217;ve heard that same train of thought before about soil, my opinion is that it&#8217;s actually both.  When you look at the 17 critical macro and micro nutrients plants need, some are organically derived and some are broken down from mineral sources.  (i.e. copper is a mineral base, but nitrogen is wholly derived from organics.)  In my opinion, the logic of &#8220;where things come from&#8221; points towards both.</p>
<p>Our northern focused &#8220;environmental argument&#8221; is simply that all these systems work at exceptionally slow levels.  It&#8217;s not that they don&#8217;t work, in fact we use them, it&#8217;s just that we can&#8217;t rely upon them in the same way as more southern growers.</p>
<p>I agree with you that the &#8220;main concern&#8221; is what else could be in chemical ferts.  We know that plants feed on inorganic chemicals (like nitrate, phosphate and potassium ions) and that any carbon in organics are essentially cleaved prior to plant uptake.  There&#8217;s also no doubt plants can take up foreign things, so if they&#8217;re there, it&#8217;s definitely of concern.  But, that&#8217;s where I look at things like MSDS for transport reasons.  Everything must be declared at the risk of serious and heavy state or federal fines.  I have to think that when it states &#8220;base chemicals&#8221; with nothing weird, there&#8217;s nothing nefarious going on &#8211; at least with reputable suppliers.  We definitely aren&#8217;t arguing for putting some off brand, questionably manufactured and probably compromised stuff on our plants.  Frankly, my concerns lie in things like PFOS and PFAS, which is entirely disconnected from the organic/inorganic discussion.</p>
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		By: Bruce		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2026 07:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You are in a very difficult location to amend soil organically. Without soil analysis you are pretty much restricted to chemicals. 
There are two distinct schools of thought on soils, one being that soils are living and the other being that they are mineral. Proper amendments include both things like manure (including chicken or bat/seabird) and kelp, and rock powders such as Azomite dust. And worms certainly help, though not essential. 
But as you mention, every plant thrives differently, so what grows great tomatoes may not grow celery very well. 
My only concern with chemical fertilizer is this- the zucchini may look, smell and taste the same, but is it nutritionally the same?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are in a very difficult location to amend soil organically. Without soil analysis you are pretty much restricted to chemicals.<br />
There are two distinct schools of thought on soils, one being that soils are living and the other being that they are mineral. Proper amendments include both things like manure (including chicken or bat/seabird) and kelp, and rock powders such as Azomite dust. And worms certainly help, though not essential.<br />
But as you mention, every plant thrives differently, so what grows great tomatoes may not grow celery very well.<br />
My only concern with chemical fertilizer is this- the zucchini may look, smell and taste the same, but is it nutritionally the same?</p>
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		By: Jeff		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2025 20:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://frostygarden.com/topics/switched-non-organic-gardening/#comment-14570&quot;&gt;Hilary&lt;/a&gt;.

So, the frequency of application will heavily depend on the specific fertilizer.  Some are designed for long term release over several months (typically granular), some are designed for very regular applications every 7-10 days (typically water soluble).  We heavily use water soluble fertilizers, with near weekly applications throughout most of the growing season.  We&#039;ve found that to be rather symbiotic with our increased growth rates from more photosynthesis and haven&#039;t felt a need to increase application frequency beyond the manufacturer&#039;s recommendation of every 7-10 days.

But, we also have some gardens where we use granular fertilizers almost exclusively.  In those, we&#039;ve generally followed manufacturer guidance for rate and quantity of applications, but it&#039;s often not quite enough.  I think the problem is less so the increased photosynthesis, rather the slower speed of the organic process that happens at northern latitudes.  The organic process is required to break down granular fertilizers into simpler chemical chains that plants can actually use.  We often supplement our granular fertilizers with water soluble fertilizers, typically once or twice a month, once our plants mature.  (Typically starting 1 month after transplant.)  This ensures they have what they need now and later.  If you want a better deep dive into water soluble vs. granular, and further insight into our practices, we discuss it further in &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L81aODHV1QM&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;this video&lt;/a&gt;.  Hope that helps!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://frostygarden.com/topics/switched-non-organic-gardening/#comment-14570">Hilary</a>.</p>
<p>So, the frequency of application will heavily depend on the specific fertilizer.  Some are designed for long term release over several months (typically granular), some are designed for very regular applications every 7-10 days (typically water soluble).  We heavily use water soluble fertilizers, with near weekly applications throughout most of the growing season.  We&#8217;ve found that to be rather symbiotic with our increased growth rates from more photosynthesis and haven&#8217;t felt a need to increase application frequency beyond the manufacturer&#8217;s recommendation of every 7-10 days.</p>
<p>But, we also have some gardens where we use granular fertilizers almost exclusively.  In those, we&#8217;ve generally followed manufacturer guidance for rate and quantity of applications, but it&#8217;s often not quite enough.  I think the problem is less so the increased photosynthesis, rather the slower speed of the organic process that happens at northern latitudes.  The organic process is required to break down granular fertilizers into simpler chemical chains that plants can actually use.  We often supplement our granular fertilizers with water soluble fertilizers, typically once or twice a month, once our plants mature.  (Typically starting 1 month after transplant.)  This ensures they have what they need now and later.  If you want a better deep dive into water soluble vs. granular, and further insight into our practices, we discuss it further in <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L81aODHV1QM" rel="nofollow ugc">this video</a>.  Hope that helps!</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2025 03:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Can you speak to the frequency of your fertilization specific to Alaska?  I’ve always been told to “fertilize more frequently” up here due to our long days but would be interested in any guidance you can offer as to HOW that might look in practice.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you speak to the frequency of your fertilization specific to Alaska?  I’ve always been told to “fertilize more frequently” up here due to our long days but would be interested in any guidance you can offer as to HOW that might look in practice.</p>
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		By: Jeff		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2022 03:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://frostygarden.com/topics/switched-non-organic-gardening/#comment-1669&quot;&gt;Deborah Koons&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for the comment, Deborah!  Worm castings are definitely great!  Glad you found the perspective helpful.]]></description>
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<p>Thanks for the comment, Deborah!  Worm castings are definitely great!  Glad you found the perspective helpful.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2022 16:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your comments Jeff!! I too have been a &quot;blended&quot; fertilizer gardener for many many years!! Our soils are just too cold and growing season too short for anything but blended gardening!! I also have composting worms that I overwinter in my garage and add to my gardens...works fantastic!! Thanks for sharing an alternative perspective to fertilizing in the sub-arctic!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments Jeff!! I too have been a &#8220;blended&#8221; fertilizer gardener for many many years!! Our soils are just too cold and growing season too short for anything but blended gardening!! I also have composting worms that I overwinter in my garage and add to my gardens&#8230;works fantastic!! Thanks for sharing an alternative perspective to fertilizing in the sub-arctic!!</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2021 08:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://frostygarden.com/topics/switched-non-organic-gardening/#comment-208&quot;&gt;dapug&lt;/a&gt;.

Great comment!  Thanks!  As for unnatural traces, I would at least hope that fert manufacturers take care not to have them to begin with.  (The MSDS for Jacks basically says &quot;dispose of as a fertilizer in a field.&quot;)  I do agree that over concentration of certain chemicals is a bad thing.  That&#039;s just as prevalent with non-organic approaches, too.  If I had the means, I&#039;d test my soil and treat it specifically for particular insufficiencies, but that&#039;s hard to do at the home garden scale.  (Many larger scale farmers do this, actually.)

As for your second comment, I do think in the &quot;long run&quot; that additions like compost and other organics benefit the soil.  We actually practice this, as well as non-organic approaches as both are important.  But, they do almost serve different purposes - long term soil health vs. instant satisfaction.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://frostygarden.com/topics/switched-non-organic-gardening/#comment-208">dapug</a>.</p>
<p>Great comment!  Thanks!  As for unnatural traces, I would at least hope that fert manufacturers take care not to have them to begin with.  (The MSDS for Jacks basically says &#8220;dispose of as a fertilizer in a field.&#8221;)  I do agree that over concentration of certain chemicals is a bad thing.  That&#8217;s just as prevalent with non-organic approaches, too.  If I had the means, I&#8217;d test my soil and treat it specifically for particular insufficiencies, but that&#8217;s hard to do at the home garden scale.  (Many larger scale farmers do this, actually.)</p>
<p>As for your second comment, I do think in the &#8220;long run&#8221; that additions like compost and other organics benefit the soil.  We actually practice this, as well as non-organic approaches as both are important.  But, they do almost serve different purposes &#8211; long term soil health vs. instant satisfaction.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2021 05:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OK, N is N, and P is P, etc. I&#039;ve used Jacks, I know its going to result in excellent growth. And I&#039;ve been trying to wean off it and go organic (opposite direction as you).  What is failed to be mentioned here are 2 things:  1) does the plant contain any sort of &quot;unnatural&quot; traces of chemicals your body wouldn&#039;t normally consume, after the plant consumes non-organic food?  2) what effect does this have on the soil?  Dumping tons of chemicals into it over time that the plant doesn&#039;t take up?

Right now there is a huge movement for &quot;Soil Regeneration&quot;. It has become inert for more reasons than just pesticides. What role does non-organic fertilizer play?  These are genuine questions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, N is N, and P is P, etc. I&#8217;ve used Jacks, I know its going to result in excellent growth. And I&#8217;ve been trying to wean off it and go organic (opposite direction as you).  What is failed to be mentioned here are 2 things:  1) does the plant contain any sort of &#8220;unnatural&#8221; traces of chemicals your body wouldn&#8217;t normally consume, after the plant consumes non-organic food?  2) what effect does this have on the soil?  Dumping tons of chemicals into it over time that the plant doesn&#8217;t take up?</p>
<p>Right now there is a huge movement for &#8220;Soil Regeneration&#8221;. It has become inert for more reasons than just pesticides. What role does non-organic fertilizer play?  These are genuine questions.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2021 02:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://frostygarden.com/topics/switched-non-organic-gardening/#comment-101&quot;&gt;Renée Carrier&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for the feedback, Renée!  We like the blended approach too, best of both worlds.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://frostygarden.com/topics/switched-non-organic-gardening/#comment-101">Renée Carrier</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for the feedback, Renée!  We like the blended approach too, best of both worlds.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2021 19:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Totally agree. I also settled on a blended approach. I add a chemical derived fertilizer and also add slower amendments like bone and blood meal. Summer are too short and plant need to grow with a bang! Love your articles!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree. I also settled on a blended approach. I add a chemical derived fertilizer and also add slower amendments like bone and blood meal. Summer are too short and plant need to grow with a bang! Love your articles!</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 19:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://frostygarden.com/topics/switched-non-organic-gardening/#comment-91&quot;&gt;Jeffrey Bradley&lt;/a&gt;.

Previously, we always thought there was some sort of difference.  But, that&#039;s completely illogical when you think about it!  It&#039;s really just the derived source, but it&#039;s all the same when it gets to the plant!  Thanks for following our blog, Jeffrey.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://frostygarden.com/topics/switched-non-organic-gardening/#comment-91">Jeffrey Bradley</a>.</p>
<p>Previously, we always thought there was some sort of difference.  But, that&#8217;s completely illogical when you think about it!  It&#8217;s really just the derived source, but it&#8217;s all the same when it gets to the plant!  Thanks for following our blog, Jeffrey.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2020 15:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Love this article.  I appreciate how thorough you are in explaining your decision.  N is nitrogen.  I guess it doesn&#039;t matter where you get it, just how it is packaged.  Nitrogen compound wise I mean.  Thanks]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love this article.  I appreciate how thorough you are in explaining your decision.  N is nitrogen.  I guess it doesn&#8217;t matter where you get it, just how it is packaged.  Nitrogen compound wise I mean.  Thanks</p>
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